Liberals win surprise budget vote
MPs vote to delay summer break,
which will allow vote on same-sex marriage
CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA - Paul Martin's Commons corps dusted off a rarely used procedural tactic just before midnight Thursday to bamboozle furious Conservatives and pass contentious Liberal-NDP budget amendments.
-HA HA HA! so funny, look at the criminals cheat to win!! Rarely used procedural tactic... LOL! You f*cking b%st*rds, have the liberals ever played fair?
The Conservatives could only sputter and fume after their unofficial partners in the Bloc Quebecois deserted them to join the Liberals and the NDP to cut off debate on the budget and move up a vote on same-sex marriage.
-So knee slapping funny how the dark side has to cheat to win, I'm laughing my guts out right now as I type this...
The realization of what had occurred only dawned on the Tories as they gazed around the shuttle buses that normally ferry MPs back to their offices and realized there wasn't a Liberal in sight.
-The weasels cheated... which is something that conservatives don't like doing nor are they used to playing dirty pool like liberals
Every available Liberal MP was cloistered in the Commons lobby waiting to spring into a vote to cut off debate. The Liberals, the Bloc and New Democrats made extraordinary use of a rule allowing for cutting off debate on the budget if they agreed the Conservatives were being obstructionist.
-gee 50% or more of the public just lost their voice for no good reason.
Conservative Leader Stephen Harper poured scorn on the alliance.
-yeah just annother example of the angry guy...
"When push comes to shove the Liberals will make any deal with anybody," Harper said after he was forced to rush back for a midnight vote. "And it doesn't matter whether it's with the socialists or with the separatists or any bunch of crooks they can find."
-Stephen you forgot to mention the devil... oops they already made that deal didn't they?
Though the Bloc stood with the Tories in the midnight budget ballotting, the Liberals still mustered five more votes than the Tory-Bloc alignment; several Conservative MPs were absent.
The Liberals were taking a monumental gamble. A loss on the vote would force the prime minister to dissolve Parliament and call a summer election.
-did the liberals know something that we don't?
But Liberal strategists were confident they had caught the Conservatives unawares and decided to risk their government for a decisive victory.
-who did the liberals buy now?
"I hope they can count," Liberal MP Shawn Murphy said of Liberal strategists as MPs milled around before the vote.
-who can count? the sell-outs with the parachutes?
The Tories, who had boldly predicted they could topple the Liberal government on the budget vote, were suddenly complaining they had members missing.
-well they would have won if the liberals didn't cheat but damn they shoulda expected this... school yard bullies 101
A few Conservatives were missing from their seats in an earlier vote Thursday evening. More could been seen racing back up Parliament Hill when news broke of the impending budget showdown.
-who were the missing MP's, you mean that you don't know?
They reacted with unfiltered rage.
-can't say I blame them, this is a new low for the liberals which keep digging deeper and deeper
Conservative deputy leader Peter MacKay described his foes as a ménage a trois between separatists, socialists and power-hungry Liberals.
-funny that the Bloc would support the liberals on this vote? very strange indeed.
Liberals claims of making the minority Parliament work was "all just one big, fat stinking lie" and then went further, comparing the Liberals to one of Hollywood's most heinous homicidal cannibals.
"We have to start thinking that Hannibal Lecter is running the government and they'll do anything they have to do to win."
Liberals could barely contain their glee in response.
-the idea of parliament is to discuss legislation and consider the will of the people, which the liberals had no interest in doing here
"Its not surprising that Hannibal Lecter should spring to mind for Mr. MacKay given the growing number of Conservatives who believe the party should soon eat its own leader," said Scott Reid, the prime minister's spokesman.
-what are you saying? most conservatives support Harper, I think that Martin is gone if he doesn't win annother majority next time
The Liberals handily won the earlier vote to extend the sitting of this session of Parliament after they promised to bring their controversial same-sex legislation to a vote.
-big deal, they had to do this and their was no consequences to the vote, conservatives wanted the extension
It was the first such extension since the free-trade debate raged in the dog days of 1988.
-yeah and the liberals were against that one btw
The Bloc Quebecois threw its weight behind the extension vote after extracting a promise from the Liberals that same-sex legislation will be dealt with before the session ends.
-why is the Bloc in a rush to deal with this? The liberals want this passed because they believe it will help them win seats in Quebec... why would the Bloc want to help that?
MPs are expected to adopt the same-sex bill by a healthy margin.
It passed second reading last month in a 163-138 vote and is already the law in every jurisdiction except Prince Edward Island, Alberta, Nunavut and the Northwest Territories.
-so now it will be forced on to those regions by virtue of the liberals cheating
Both the Bloc and the NDP support it, overwhelming the Tories and three dozen or so Liberal backbenchers who oppose it.
-why do 3 dozen liberals oppose it... no answer?
The Liberals carefully gauged the absences in the Commons before pulling their surprise move Thursday, knowing where their opposition stood and mindful of their close shave last month when they survived a Tory-Bloc non-confidence move by only one vote.
The Tories and the Bloc have said all along they would vote against the amendment, which would add $4.6 billion in social spending to the budget.
-looks like some conservative MP's have some splaining to do...
Earlier, several Tories said privately they don't want an election, don't expect one, and have no desire to topple the government right now.
-who are they? name them. Nice job of spin though Red Star, because you know and I know that the liberals would bleed in an election right now
It would be novel political strategy for the Tories to trigger an election now - 12 points behind the Liberals in the latest Decima poll released Thursday, and threatening to send the country to the polls in August for the first time since 1953.
-why don't the liberals dissolve the house and call an election then if they are confident that 12 points ahead (where except for Toronto????), means majority government?
Even an election-hungry Bloc - which is poised to sweep Quebec - seems more anxious to hit cottage country than the campaign trail.
-depends, polls can always change... better to get the bird in the hand than two in the bush
"For the moment I don't intend to order the (election) machine kick-started again," Gauthier said.
-so are you insiders in the Bloc now too at the STAR??
"Personally, I'd prefer to go for my vacation soon and maybe the fall would be a better moment for a general election.
"But I am always ready."
-ha ha, there you go..
It was the Bloc's co-operation that made an extension possible. The Commons had been scheduled to start its three-month summer break Thursday.
-yeah nice to see that most of the politicians in this country are socialists if one happens to like that of course
Initially lukewarm to the idea, the Bloc changed its tune after an exchange of letters between Gauthier and Liberal House leader Tony Valeri.
-how much money?
Valeri promised "that C-38 would be dealt with at all stages before the House would adjourn."
-how can he do that?
That was good enough for the Bloc - which had said it wanted a written guarantee that C-38 would come to a vote if there were an extension.
-nobody understands why Quebec wants gay-marriage? If you know then please explain it for me.