Ethics commissioner says he learned lesson from Judy Sgro investigation
John Ward
Canadian Press
Friday, June 24, 2005
OTTAWA -- Ethics Commissioner Bernard Shapiro, the target of some opposition MPs who want him fired, says he learned lessons from his first investigation and will apply them from now on.
Shapiro said his inquiry into the actions of Judy Sgro, the former immigration minister, was his first and it was a learning experience. He testified at the Commons ethics committee as MPs on the committee clashed over how they could question him. Opposition MPs tried to zero in on the Sgro inquiry, but were deflected by the chairman, who kept questions focused on general process, not specifics.
-sorry not good enough; this is like a judge making mistakes... not acceptable, he goes!!
"This is not a court of appeal," said chairman David Tilson.
New Democrat MP Ed Broadbent has said he wants to bring a motion of non-confidence in Shapiro before the committee, but that hasn't been done yet.
-but he just admitted that he made mistakes...
The MPs decided in camera that they would consider such a motion next week, if the Commons is still sitting.
Shapiro told the committee he will do some things differently in future.
-like start looking for annother job..
For instance, he said, he found it's important to sit down with all the principals in an investigation right at the start and discuss the issues.
-why did they hire this guy? whose ass did he have his head up?
"It cuts away the brushwood," he said.
He also said it's important to sort out what complaints he can deal with and which ones should be directed to other agencies.
Shapiro sent Sgro a letter on the investigation before issuing his report. She cited the letter as exoneration, although the final report did chide her for the actions of her staff.
-typical media denials
Shapiro said he sent letters to people who were subject to critical comment in the report and asked them to comment on matters of fact. He said he doesn't know if he would do that again.
-why not?
The Sgro investigation took seven months and Shapiro said he could probably shorten that in future cases. "You learn things," he said. He said it took time to get his operation running, hire a staff, arrange for offices.
-not an excuse in my opinion, we had other people doing this
He also complained about what he called a culture particular to the capital: "There seems to be a culture around in Ottawa that makes admitting a mistake a mistake instead of a learning experience."
-actually liberals make many mistakes and get away with them but a conservative never does
Shapiro also said he'll look into the actions of Tim Murphy, chief of staff to the prime minister, in the controversy over the case of secret tapes involving Tory MP Gurmant Grewal and will "likely" look at the prime minister as well.
-yeah and I'm staring at my navel right now too... so what?
"I expect . . . that I will find it appropriate to widen the examination to include either the prime minister and-or anyone else who seems to have a material relationship to the examination in question."
-you will find it appropriate to keep your job no matter what like all other liberals
He said Murphy won't be the formal target of the inquiry, but will be looked at. "He's so central to the issue that I would intend to include him."
-I expect that you two will be spot on for lunch eh chap??
"It's not good enough," said Conservative MP Tom Lukiwski. "I want a definitive statement. One of the problems we have with the ethics commissioner is that he seems, much as in the manner of the prime minister, to dither on a lot of issues.
-yes finally some truth, somebody that says it like it is...
Frankly I couldn't read any more of the shyte in that article so I leave it up to you to go to the link above and read the rest..